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Originally posted by balancedbull balancedbull wrote:

Originally posted by MainStreet MainStreet wrote:

The first time I ate at Swiss Chalet I got sick. It's obvious to me that all their restaurants only serve spoiled food all the time.
 
JAB Signature Gold is damn near hand tailored quality. It's 150 count Italian yarn, Cordozo buttons, surgeon cuffs and Bemberg lining. If you can find that quality anywhere for an effective rate of $200 a suit like it was this weekend past, you let me know.
 
The company has gotten to the point were you need to start shorting it from an investment perspective. They are playing some sort of Amazon game where they hope to price out every level of competition.
I took advantage of that sale this past weekend. I think it is good quality for the price. I have two bespoke suits that I had made while in England and the JAB are not really that different in quality.

Except JAB is made in mexico and suck..
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Good point Chief. Iceco1d 10/30/12
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I bet over time you are right. They won't hold up. As for look, and fit... very little difference. Oh but I forgot, on the bespoke suits I can leave one button on the jacket sleeve unbuttoned to show how much money I spent.
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Originally posted by MainStreet MainStreet wrote:

And yeah ... you put on one of their sports coats and you start wondering when is the clam bake, and whether any of the Kennedy's will be showing up drunk this time.


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In my humble opinion, it's not the suit. Save your money.

It's the shirt and the shoes.

Re: suits, I love hickey... And have had great luck with Tom James,.. But you need the right rep.

That being said, I have a client who has custom suits he got for 500 or 700 from some tailor who has them made in china... Full canvas. With suits, its the tailor and his measurements,... Not the manufacturer. Fabric is also overrates.

IMHO, skimp on the suit. Get nice shirts,
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I had 3 custom suits made when I was in Thailand last spring very fair price--worth every penny! You can choose your fabric and go with the higher end stuff if you want.  Compliments every time I wear one.
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JAB, the poor man's Brooks Brothers. I've have many JAB suits hanging in the closet. They are uniforms, tools for the job. I have yet to find any suit by any manufacturer or retailer that holds up to the daily grind better than a JAB suit.
 
Suits from Boyds that looked worn out after a couple of years.  You know what? I pay 2gs for a suit I expect it to last longer than 24 months!!!! Same goes for the dozen or so  $1000 suits i've bought over the years. They look good for a while but never held up the way the uniform suit does. So, screw it!!! My office is less than 3 blocks from the finest men's store in Philly. And, I will never set foot in there again!!!!
 
 I will tell you I love quality. Will I shop at Sherman Brothers Shoes? Yes!!!  Will I still buy Allen Edmonds, and Santoni shoes? Yup!!!! While spending $500 to $700 for a pair of shoes may seem outrageous, not so much when they last 20 years. And, not outrageous when they look as good on day7300 as they did on day one. I shit you not!!!! So, quality is something I'm willing to pay for IF THE QUALITY IS THERE!!!! Unfortunately, in the world of fine men's wear, it is not. It's all a marketing scheme. So why pay up?
 
Back at JAB, you don't need to buy the Signature Gold to look and feel good, but at 70% off why wouldn't you? I bought one yesterday, $245 with an extra discount the salesman threw in. I buy their Signature suits and I have a few of their Executuve suits that are my rainy day/bad weather suits. Cheap, yup!!! But they look good and wear well!!!! And, FU, i'm not giving up a good suit when i have to meet with Velda the dog lover, while one of her Pomeranians stands on me as Velda gleems "Isn't she the cutest thing!!" So, suits for every situation.
 
JAB doesn't make the suits in Balitmore anymore, so what? Those suits, btw, are legendary. I still have a few, but they suffer from the dreaded CSD (closet shrinkage disease. You know, you hang it in the closet for too long and then when you finally wear it again, it no longer fits!!! must be the lack of air circulation or something?) Back on point - unless you go to a tailor, all suits are made off shore. And, the materials your tailor is using for that hand crafted suit? There are few that will spring for the finest materials. So, what are you paying for?
 
 I bought my first JAB suit in around the mid 80s. From that POV, I will tell you that they hold up, wear well, and look good. Great value!!!! Perfect for newly minted advisors. The fact, for most of us, there are few situations where you are going to get called out on your suit. That is as long as it is clean, fits right, and isn't worn out. Even with the ultra rich, you don't have to show up in a $3000 suit, just as you don't have to show up driving an S550.


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My problem is that I have to get suit separates or custom because my measurements are ridiculous(short legs, average waist, big shoulders) by the time they get done cutting the suits I have a 2ft zipper and the pants look like MC Hammer pants
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Hammer time!!
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Hammer time!!


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Originally posted by BondGuy BondGuy wrote:

JAB, the poor man's Brooks Brothers. I've have many JAB suits hanging in the closet. They are uniforms, tools for the job. I have yet to find any suit by any manufacturer or retailer that holds up to the daily grind better than a JAB suit.
 
Suits from Boyds that looked worn out after a couple of years.  You know what? I pay 2gs for a suit I expect it to last longer than 24 months!!!! Same goes for the dozen or so  $1000 suits i've bought over the years. They look good for a while but never held up the way the uniform suit does. So, screw it!!! My office is less than 3 blocks from the finest men's store in Philly. And, I will never set foot in there again!!!!
 
 I will tell you I love quality. Will I shop at Sherman Brothers Shoes? Yes!!!  Will I still buy Allen Alden, and Santori shoes? Yup!!!! While spending $500 to $700 fro a pair of shoes may seem outrageous, not so much when they last 20 years. And, not outrageous when they look as good on day7300 as did on day one. I shit you not!!!! So, quality is something I'm willing to pay for IF THE QUALITY IS THERE!!!! Unfortunately, in the world of fine men's wear, it is not. It's all a marketing scheme. So why pay up?
 
Back at JAB, you don't need to buy the Signature Gold to look and feel good, but at 70% off why wouldn't you? I bought one yesterday, $245 with an extra discount the salesman threw in. I buy their Signature suits and I have a few of their Executuve suits that are my rainy day/bad weather suits. Cheap, yup!!! But they look good and wear well!!!! And, FU, i'm not giving up a good suit when i have to meet with Velda the dog lover, while one of her Pomeranians stands on me as Velda gleems "Isn't she the cutest thing!!" So, suits for every situation.
 
JAB doesn't make the suits in Balitmore anymore, so what? Those suits, btw, are legendary. I still have a few, but they suffer from the dreaded CSD (closet shrinkage disease. You know, you hang it in the closet for too long and then when you finally wear it again, it no longer fits!!! must be the lack of air circulation or something?) Back on point - unless you go to a tailor, all suits are made off shore. And, the materials your tailor is using for that hand crafted suit? There are few that will spring for the finest materials. So, what are you paying for?
 
 I bought my first JAB suit in around the mid 80s. From that POV, I will tell you that they hold up, wear well, and look good. Great value!!!! Perfect for newly minted advisors. The fact, for most of us, there are few situations where you are going to get called out on your suit. That is as long as it it is clean, fit right, and isn't worn out. Even with the ultra rich, you don't have to show up in a $3000 suit, just as you don't have to show up driving an S550.
LOL Hilarious! I have the same problem with my closet.
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Originally posted by Chief Chief wrote:

My problem is that I have to get suit separates or custom because my measurements are ridiculous(short legs, average waist, big shoulders) by the time they get done cutting the suits I have a 2ft zipper and the pants look like MC Hammer pants

Yeah, with the pockets nearly touching in the back.
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Originally posted by B24 B24 wrote:

Originally posted by Chief Chief wrote:

My problem is that I have to get suit separates or custom because my measurements are ridiculous(short legs, average waist, big shoulders) by the time they get done cutting the suits I have a 2ft zipper and the pants look like MC Hammer pants

Yeah, with the pockets nearly touching in the back.

So you know my pain... how did you fix it?
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Originally posted by Chief Chief wrote:

My problem is that I have to get suit separates or custom because my measurements are ridiculous(short legs, average waist, big shoulders) by the time they get done cutting the suits I have a 2ft zipper and the pants look like MC Hammer pants

Yeah, with the pockets nearly touching in the back.

So you know my pain... how did you fix it?

I either have the suits custom made or buy separates.

I've gotten some suits from Tom James that were pretty good. The trick is to ask your rep for their discontinued fabrics that are on sale. Usually most of them are not something you would want, but there is typically one or two that are pretty decent. Get a good discount that way.

I bought my first custom suit in Manhattan about 15 years ago. Best suit I've ever had, and I shit you not, I still have it and it looks great. I've had to get it mended a few times because threads pull out on the cuffs or something. But it fits absolutely perfect. And it was like $500. Old Jewish guy in this little apartment/suite thing. Just floor to ceiling rolls of fabric. Not sure if they are still there or not. I wish I had bought 5 more of them.
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I appreciate an expensive suit. But suits can be expensive for two different reasons:

1. Quality construction, full canvas, floating chest piece, hand made.
These look AWESOME and last FOREVER

2. Quality fabric.
Looks great for a few months.. Then the fabric quickly degrades.

Ever notice flashy Armani or Zegna suits never look quite right?
That shit is held together with glue. Same way my daighter's princess dress-up gowns are made. She's 4 and like an Zegna suit, she's not particular about fit.

Ever notice hickey freeman for the same price range looks sick! (never as flashy though.. Even on day one.. But flashy fades.)

When I do Tom James I always take the grade of fabric down a notch from what they recommend... Lasts better.
And I don't notice that I get fewer compliments.
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When it comes to tailored suits in the United States ... Adrian Jules, in Rochester. Came on them completely by mistake.

If you get a MTM suit in the US, there's a 60% chance the work was farmed out to AJ. There is a designation called Master Tailor, Level 5. I believe there are a very, very limited number in the entire US and AJ has that designation.
 
Not terribly expensive - in their world that is. Entry level is around $1200-1500, which included full Bemberg, custom lining, surgeon's cuffs, fully lined, pick tailoring, 110 count cloth.
 
Their clientele includes NFL, CEO-Wall Street, et al. Neatest thing for them ... their custom shirts don't have your initials on the sleeve, they mimic your literal signature. For me, I can't stand shirt collars. They rub my neck something fierce, and AJ can lower the collar level for me. Ask for Peter Roberti. 
 
Chief aren't you from Chicago area? I understand Nicholas Joseph has a pretty good shop.  
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I hate that I just read all 14 pages.  FML I need to get back to work.  I now know that there is a large amount of homosexuals on this forum, and I guarentee, by the scatter brained typing style, some of these are pot headed homos that love talking about cloths.
 
 
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Originally posted by Straddle_It Straddle_It wrote:

I hate that I just read all 14 pages.  FML I need to get back to work.  I now know that there is a large amount of homosexuals on this forum, and I guarentee, by the scatter brained typing style, some of these are pot headed homos that love talking about cloths.
 
 
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Why would you say this? Are you 16 years old?
 
The thing most of the people contributing to these threads have in common, regardless of sexual orientation, is that they are succesful. You, otoh, are on the outside looking in. So, either add positive content, or go to high school dot com to express your homophobic attitude. You can all giggle together!!!!
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Originally posted by BondGuy BondGuy wrote:

Originally posted by Straddle_It Straddle_It wrote:

I hate that I just read all 14 pages.  FML I need to get back to work.  I now know that there is a large amount of homosexuals on this forum, and I guarentee, by the scatter brained typing style, some of these are pot headed homos that love talking about cloths.
 
 
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Why would you say this? Are you 16 years old?
 
The thing most of the people contributing to these threads have in common, regardless of sexual orientation, is that they are succesful. You, otoh, are on the outside looking in. So, either add positive content, or go to high school dot com to express your homophobic attitude. You can all giggle together!!!!
 
 
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