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    Posted: Jul/09/2019 at 6:36pm
Hey all. Relative newbie with about 5 years experience as an outside rep and wirehouse advisor. Just want some input on how the roles are at different firms.
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I've spent a lot of time searching the forum. Some good info here.  I'm new too, just registered. 
I lived in the Bay for over 20 years. If you can do the drive, you can make good money there.  
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What roles are you asking about?
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Chase, Fidelity, and Edelman. I’m an associate planner at an RIA now and eventually want to do my own thing. Would working at any of the other ones benefit me at all?
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All terrible choices. Sorry. Maybe Edelman is ok but the other two really suck.
Good luck and good selling.
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Came to the right place!
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If it's doing your thing means running a financial advisory practice. Meaning you want to develop a book of business and clients, you will need to be somewhere where you can gather assets and eventually take them with you.  I would suggest a good Regional firm like Raymond James or Stiefel.  Just be careful not to sign any non-compete clauses.


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Originally posted by Chips Chips wrote:

Chase, Fidelity, and Edelman. I’m an associate planner at an RIA now and eventually want to do my own thing. Would working at any of the other ones benefit me at all?

I'm personally in the process of adding a newer advisor, but preferably not one I have to feed for 2-3 years.  If I have to go that direction, I'd just about as soon hire a new finance grad as an assistant and teach them the business with the idea of transitioning them to production-based comp.  If you can live on 40-50K/year while you learn the business and develop a client base, an established indy is a great place to consider.  The only non-compete I have is a formula that compensates me for any client a departing adviser takes with them, as long as it was a client I gave the adviser.  If the adviser takes clients they developed themselves, that's fine by me.  Client source is established when I hand the client over.  Having come from an environment where my old employer did everything they could to keep my clients, I was determined not to ever do that to anyone else.  I suspect you'd find independents more of this mindset than captive employers.

If I were you, I'd canvas the local independent adviser population and start making contacts.  Odds are, you'll find some thinking about retirement without a good succession plan in place.
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The offers I’m currently looking at are for a FC role with Fidelity and a bank advisor with JPMCHASE. Both have some interesting circumstances that make them slightly more appealing than the role would typically be.

Fidelity’s is an acquisition focused role. Basically meeting with referrals from the 401k and ESPP/ESOP groups. I think it would be higher touch than a traditional FC with 400 clients if I’m onboarding them, winning the business and not necessarily focusing on managing existing relationships. Idk. Maybe the manager is just blowing smoke to get me in the door.

JPMCHASE is just a good branch in SF where I’d be the only advisor. Just seems like a great way to build a book of HNW clients really quickly but I REALLY don’t want to go to a bank.

I’d appreciate input from people that know more about these company’s MOs.
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What’s comp look like?
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Originally posted by Chips Chips wrote:

The offers I’m currently looking at are for a FC role with Fidelity and a bank advisor with JPMCHASE. Both have some interesting circumstances that make them slightly more appealing than the role would typically be.

Fidelity’s is an acquisition focused role. Basically meeting with referrals from the 401k and ESPP/ESOP groups. I think it would be higher touch than a traditional FC with 400 clients if I’m onboarding them, winning the business and not necessarily focusing on managing existing relationships. Idk. Maybe the manager is just blowing smoke to get me in the door.

JPMCHASE is just a good branch in SF where I’d be the only advisor. Just seems like a great way to build a book of HNW clients really quickly but I REALLY don’t want to go to a bank.

I’d appreciate input from people that know more about these company’s MOs.


Do not, under any circumstance, go to Chase. Go to Edward Jones if you are looking for a decent place to start.
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75k base for both. My understanding is that fidelity pays bonuses on new flows but it’s also tied to how the office as a whole does. Typically hard to do more than 100-150. Not sure how chase works. I assume it’s a typical 30-35% of production.
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Again. If you want to build and own a business don't go to a bank or a discount broker.  Don't take a Salary or if you need to, make sure you don't get locked in or sign a non compete.  If you just want a job go for the higher salary but you will never have job security.
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Originally posted by Ron 14 Ron 14 wrote:

Originally posted by Chips Chips wrote:

The offers I’m currently looking at are for a FC role with Fidelity and a bank advisor with JPMCHASE. Both have some interesting circumstances that make them slightly more appealing than the role would typically be.

Fidelity’s is an acquisition focused role. Basically meeting with referrals from the 401k and ESPP/ESOP groups. I think it would be higher touch than a traditional FC with 400 clients if I’m onboarding them, winning the business and not necessarily focusing on managing existing relationships. Idk. Maybe the manager is just blowing smoke to get me in the door.

JPMCHASE is just a good branch in SF where I’d be the only advisor. Just seems like a great way to build a book of HNW clients really quickly but I REALLY don’t want to go to a bank.

I’d appreciate input from people that know more about these company’s MOs.


Do not, under any circumstance, go to Chase. Go to Edward Jones if you are looking for a decent place to start.


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Originally posted by Indyone Indyone wrote:

Originally posted by Chips Chips wrote:

Chase, Fidelity, and Edelman. I’m an associate planner at an RIA now and eventually want to do my own thing. Would working at any of the other ones benefit me at all?


I'm personally in the process of adding a newer advisor, but preferably not one I have to feed for 2-3 years.  If I have to go that direction, I'd just about as soon hire a new finance grad as an assistant and teach them the business with the idea of transitioning them to production-based comp.  If you can live on 40-50K/year while you learn the business and develop a client base, an established indy is a great place to consider.  The only non-compete I have is a formula that compensates me for any client a departing adviser takes with them, as long as it was a client I gave the adviser.  If the adviser takes clients they developed themselves, that's fine by me.  Client source is established when I hand the client over.  Having come from an environment where my old employer did everything they could to keep my clients, I was determined not to ever do that to anyone else.  I suspect you'd find independents more of this mindset than captive employers.

If I were you, I'd canvas the local independent adviser population and start making contacts.  Odds are, you'll find some thinking about retirement without a good succession plan in place.


What sort of goals would you set for a new producing adviser? Like if you paid them 50k a salary, what would you want their production to be after 1-2 years?
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