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Topic: Benefit of Online Forum
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Benefit of Online Forum
Date Posted: May/27/2010 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by Indyone Indyone wrote:

Originally posted by SometimesNowhere SometimesNowhere wrote:

Yesterday she told me "that thing doesn't really help your business". She's too smart sometimes.
 
There's plenty of BS, but I'm confident that over the years, I've gotten almost six figures worth of ideas from these forums.  I hardly cal l that not helping my business.


I agree completely Indy.  In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if I didn't find the RR mag forum I would've probably quit the business within a year. 



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May/27/2010 at 9:58pm
To elaborate on that, keep in mind that I joined an existing Indy practice.  A practice where, we have a couple of part time guys who are mainly health insurance agents, myself, and the DS and his daughter (who are on a team).

Absolutely great people, but the part timers don't even have an office or cube, they work from home or from their day job.  The OSJ is pretty comfy, and has definitely lost his desire to cultivate the business.  He's frequently not there, his daughter pretty much runs his book. 

That being said, I basically was ready to take the S7 when I went in and ask to be sponsored.  After I got my licenses, this was the extent of my training..

"well, you're licensed now, so if you have a chance to talk to someone about doing business, make an appointment with them."

End of training. 

No salary.  No benefits.  Paid my own licensing, study materials, E&O, background check, credit check, literally everything out of my own pocket.  Zero training - on anything.  And I built everything on my own entirely. 

So when you put it in perspective, yeah, without guys like Indyone, Sportsfreakbob, Mo, Primo, Snags, Anonymous, Bond Guy, The Judge, Deekay, Gaddock, and yes even Bio and a slew of others, I probably would have quit. 

That forum, and these people, are just a tremendous resource.  Totally awesome. 

Edit:  And no, I don't think I learned a great deal about investments here, I had that coming in.  But I didn't know jack about prospecting, insurance, annuities, practice management, a whole slew of things..  Just great.


Posted By: Maksim
Date Posted: Jun/14/2010 at 8:53pm

forums have their place. 

Where the issue is, is when people go on the forum, just so they dont have to do what they know they have to do.



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Posted By: gb0413
Date Posted: Jun/15/2010 at 12:48pm
had it not been for this forum and RR i would not be nearly as educated about the general industry as i am now.  I consider these forums a huge educational tool


Posted By: Donkey Puncher
Date Posted: Jun/15/2010 at 1:02pm
Ice, I'm honored I even played a very bit part in your success.  You made my day.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Jun/16/2010 at 12:52pm
Originally posted by Donkey Puncher Donkey Puncher wrote:

Ice, I'm honored I even played a very bit part in your success.  You made my day.


The honor, and gratitude, is all mine, my friend.  I owe you guys big time!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Dec/15/2010 at 10:09pm
I thought I would share my story as I am feeling a bit nostalgic this evening.  I came across these forums back in 2006.  In my office there were two types of brokers.  Those that were busy working and had no time to talk, and those that were busy not working and had no time to talk about anything business related.  I signed up at RR with a different name than I use now and Snaggletooth was the first to welcome me after a few posts.  I found a place to do the unthinkable, talk to my peers about business.  Share ideas and gather knowledge to help me in my practice.  Soon I was posting regularly.  There were epic threads we still talk about a few years later including one Iceco1d and I had about actice v passive money management.  My favorite of all time was a thread (completely non-business related) about a guy named Toby Harris.  Joedabrkr (I hope he is doing well) and I spent hours having fun at his expense.  I found something I was lacking, other financial geeks that wanted to talk shop after hours and a place to blow off some steam also.
 
As time progressed, turns out I tend to anger the internet tough guys, including some pretty well known ones.  I have little time for arguments that contain no intelligent discourse, and was very vocal in that respect.  So to date I have had a number of ID's (yes Ron we have had the Favre conversation more than once) because I work at a place that frowned on participation on these boards until recently.  I have worked  very hard to keep my identity a secret from the guys who take the internet too seriously.  As the board at RR became more "I'm gonna out you" and less "Do you think we are at the bottom yet?" I cut back on the amount of time and the number of posts I made until the day came that I walked away completely.
 
Out of curiosity, I came back earlier this year.  Although I had my usernames deleted each time I changed, I decided to fly a flag and register under Primo.  Right away, Ice sent me a PM asking if I was the same Primo as before.   Upon confirmation,  he invited me to this forum.  I enjoy spending time on the forums again.  There are those members I have little time for, but that number is very low.  I get ideas and try to help where I can.  But mostly I socialize and this helps me as our business is very stressful and their is a certain kinship amongst brokers.  I have made friends on these forums that I will keep in touch with for a long time.  I want to thank the people who started this forum and the people that pay for it to stay up.  I appreciate it and am glad that I can contribute in a small way.


Posted By: Ron 14
Date Posted: Dec/15/2010 at 10:14pm
What the hell is going on?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Dec/15/2010 at 10:16pm
Originally posted by Ron 14 Ron 14 wrote:

What the hell is going on?
 
My wife is watching the sing a long show.


Posted By: Ron 14
Date Posted: Dec/15/2010 at 10:18pm
That has you throwing out "I love you man" speeches?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Dec/15/2010 at 10:20pm
Originally posted by Ron 14 Ron 14 wrote:

That has you throwing out "I love you man" speeches?
 
You can love another man without being gay Ron.  I know this goes against everything you have ever been taught but it is true.  Now sit down and catch your breath, it is gonna be all right.


Posted By: Ron 14
Date Posted: Dec/15/2010 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by Primo Primo wrote:

Originally posted by Ron 14 Ron 14 wrote:

That has you throwing out "I love you man" speeches?
 
You can make love to another woman without being gay Ron.  I know this goes against everything you have ever been taught but it is true.  Now sit down and catch your breath, it is gonna be all right.
 
To each their own I guess.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Dec/15/2010 at 10:25pm
Big smile


Posted By: eggward
Date Posted: Dec/16/2010 at 8:50am
Originally posted by LSUAlum LSUAlum wrote:

I think if you view sites like this as a way to exchange professional ideas then you have to understand that writing in a professional manner is essential. Some people come here specifically for the exchanage of those ideas.
 
On the other hand if you view this board as a way to mingle with people who have similar work experiences and common ground, then you can write in a very conversational tone. Some people come here specifially for that.
 
Both are needed to keep the board vibrant.
 
LSU put that in another thread.  I think he is spot on.  When RR changed the software, whether it was intentional on their part or not, it basically killed the social aspect of the board.  Those of us who were used to that part of it didn't like the change and left.  Anyone who signed up at RR after their software change, wouldn't know what they missed.


Posted By: blackcat
Date Posted: Dec/16/2010 at 12:04pm
I'm a one man shop. Without this form I would very much feel like I was on a island. I havnt posted much, but its a good feeling to know there are people on this forum willing to help and give advise to individuals like myself. I also agree that all the information is priceless.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Dec/16/2010 at 4:58pm
Originally posted by blackcat blackcat wrote:

I'm a one man shop. Without this form I would very much feel like I was on a island. I havnt posted much, but its a good feeling to know there are people on this forum willing to help and give advise to individuals like myself. I also agree that all the information is priceless.
+1


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Dec/16/2010 at 6:55pm
Nice to see your still visiting our little world ML.  Mission accomplished and you walked right into it. 


Posted By: Kletus
Date Posted: Dec/16/2010 at 7:20pm
It's hard to tell yet because I'm not in production, but both forums have been a great resource for me to use to decide whether to make the jump into this industry.   There is a wealth of knowledge here, and because of it I feel like I am more prepared for the upcoming battle than I would have been otherwise.   


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Dec/16/2010 at 7:25pm
Originally posted by Kletus Kletus wrote:

It's hard to tell yet because I'm not in production, but both forums have been a great resource for me to use to decide whether to make the jump into this industry.   There is a wealth of knowledge here, and because of it I feel like I am more prepared for the upcoming battle than I would have been otherwise.   
 
 
We are happy that you have benefited.


Posted By: Random_Walk
Date Posted: Dec/28/2010 at 4:33pm
I must also add that this board has helped me tremendously. I have not started on my own yet but just the support and feedback I have received thus far has been amazing.
 
I am sure the value of this board begins to deminish once you become successful and build your book. However, it seems there are those out there that simply give back for the joy of seeing others succeed and to help contribute to the profession. Hats off to you guys!
 
I hope one day to give back to others in that way.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Sep/01/2011 at 12:53am
Bump


Posted By: newregrep
Date Posted: Sep/01/2011 at 9:18am
Benefit of this forum is the sheer amount of information and learning from the vets.  I even pick ideas from here and talking points to reach out to prospects and clients.  I picked up a pitch here and a process that gave me the confidence to keep trucking and so far, results are not too shabby.
 
One thing that I have noticed is you start to pick up the Investment lingo from reading the threads here, which helps in a client conversation if used correctly.  You also pick up some forum lingo which I find to be hilarious.


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Helado for Prez


Posted By: RickRoss
Date Posted: Sep/03/2011 at 10:14am
NewRegRep, love that picture.  Btw, a while back on another thread, you posted something about being worried about an upcoming meeting w a manager at ML.  Clearly, it must have gone okay.  Where are you in the program?

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"Act as if you are the MF bomb..... even if you are one of those snap pops you throw on the ground."
-gotplanning, 2/9/12


Posted By: joedabrkr
Date Posted: Dec/29/2011 at 12:14am
Originally posted by Primo Primo wrote:

There were epic threads we still talk about a few years later including one Iceco1d and I had about actice v passive money management.  My favorite of all time was a thread (completely non-business related) about a guy named Toby Harris.  Joedabrkr (I hope he is doing well) and I spent hours having fun at his expense.  I found something I was lacking, other financial geeks that wanted to talk shop after hours and a place to blow off some steam also.

Hi Primo - thanks for the props.    
 
 As the board at RR became more "I'm gonna out you" and less "Do you think we are at the bottom yet?" I cut back on the amount of time and the number of posts I made until the day came that I walked away completely.
 
Wink You know I also was painfully aware of the ongoing issues at the RR board.


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ummmm..yeah really it's me.


Posted By: Moraen
Date Posted: Dec/29/2011 at 7:45am
We don't have those issues here.



Posted By: joedabrkr
Date Posted: Dec/29/2011 at 3:59pm
Originally posted by Moraen Moraen wrote:

We don't have those issues here.


So I'm told, by reliable sources.Wink


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ummmm..yeah really it's me.


Posted By: SwitchHustle
Date Posted: Dec/29/2011 at 8:19pm
I remember when my "buddy" told me an internet forum for financial advisors sounds like a stupid fucking idea, what a dipshit. I learn more on here than I did watching the firm provided power points. Even though I lost my job I'm still looking to get back in the biz soley because of what i have read on thsi site.


Posted By: indynow
Date Posted: May/08/2012 at 3:53pm
Originally posted by blackcat blackcat wrote:

I'm a one man shop. Without this form I would very much feel like I was on a island. I havnt posted much, but its a good feeling to know there are people on this forum willing to help and give advise to individuals like myself. I also agree that all the information is priceless.
+1 for the one man shop, the jury is still out on the forum. I used to like RR.....


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May/08/2012 at 7:56pm
LOL, the jury is not "still out" on the forum.  The verdict was delivered about a year ago in favor (which was RR sentenced to death by their own greed & ignorance!).


Posted By: Sportsfreak
Date Posted: May/08/2012 at 9:09pm
Ice, easy on the little tike, he is too new here, to know better

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Sorry MINT, SF is right, I was wrong......Helado...March 8th, 2014


Posted By: Hoss
Date Posted: May/09/2012 at 10:19pm

This looks and feels like the OF



Posted By: HOLLYWOOD_JACK
Date Posted: Sep/13/2012 at 6:44pm
I will add that this forum has given me tremendous knowledge on the struggles of beginning in this industry. With that, it gave me the confidence to jump in and take the risk. Thanks to all who have contributed here.


Posted By: knuk
Date Posted: Sep/13/2012 at 7:53pm
Originally posted by HOLLYWOOD_JACK HOLLYWOOD_JACK wrote:

I will add that this forum has given me tremendous knowledge on the struggles of beginning in this industry. With that, it gave me the confidence to jump in and take the risk. Thanks to all who have contributed here.

Welcome to our nightmare...


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Too much of anything is bad, but too much good whiskey is barely enough - Mark Twain


Posted By: Skywalker
Date Posted: Jul/24/2014 at 7:11am
Good work


Posted By: Mitesh
Date Posted: Aug/29/2015 at 2:14am
1. Networking opportunities
2. Gain ideas
3. Increase knowledge
4. Mentorship
5. Build relationships
6. Establish expertise
7. Increase traffic and sales


Posted By: Sportsfreak
Date Posted: Aug/29/2015 at 10:40am
Originally posted by Mitesh Mitesh wrote:

<font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">1. <span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">Networking opportunities</span>
<font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">2. <span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">Gain ideas</span>
<font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">3. <span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">Increase knowledge</span>
<font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">4. </span><span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">Mentorship</span>
<font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">5. </span><span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">Build relationships</span>
<font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">6. </span><span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">Establish expertise</span>
<font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">7. </span><span style="color: rgb37, 37, 37; line-height: 1.2em;">Increase traffic and sales</span>


Mitesh - you are located in India. Why are you here, and why does your profile say New York?

Tread lightly my friend.

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Sorry MINT, SF is right, I was wrong......Helado...March 8th, 2014


Posted By: Dondraper
Date Posted: Aug/31/2016 at 10:01pm
I love this forum. Nothing else like it on the web for financial advisers to congregate and talk shop


Posted By: Fitness1983
Date Posted: Sep/08/2016 at 9:49pm
I'm curious as to the origin of this forum. From what I can gather it began around 2010. There was a splitting from another forum. RR.com? Which is now wealthmanagement forums? I'm surprised this forum doesn't have more activity. I'm sure it did on its prior incarnations and isn't "what it used to be." Am I close or way off?


Posted By: anonymous
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 11:58am
Originally posted by Fitness1983 Fitness1983 wrote:

I'm curious as to the origin of this forum. From what I can gather it began around 2010. There was a splitting from another forum. RR.com? Which is now wealthmanagement forums? I'm surprised this forum doesn't have more activity. I'm sure it did on its prior incarnations and isn't "what it used to be." Am I close or way off?
 
You got it part right, but here's the whole story. The old RR forum had a LOT of big producers and good content. There were a series of debates where the old guard there embarrassed some younger advisors (active/passive, whole/term insurance, fees/commissions, VA living benefits). The pikers who lost those debates decided to leave RR so they would have a "safe space" where they weren't owned so consistently. I won't name names, but they have psychological issues ranging from PTSD/anger management, God complex, napoleon complex, etc...
 
This site picked up a lot of traffic when some of the big hitters from RR joined AH to continue the debates. Unfortunately, the moderators couldn't take the abuse and banned all dissenting posters. We'll never hear from some of the legends of the old forum again - BFP, Lawrence, BioFreeze, voltmoie, XLockEDJ, mailto:Still@Jones" rel="nofollow - Still@Jones , Wanker, aeromaks.
 
The other thing that holds down membership is that most of the moderators are closeted homosexuals. You'll note the prevalence of questions/comments about anal sex. Because of this, female posters are run off pretty quickly so us guys can play grab ass in the locker room together.


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"Just do shit. It doesnt matter what as long as it gets you and your name in front of people" - Sportsfreak


Posted By: Fitness1983
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 6:15pm
Um ok...strange but interesting. Are there other resourceful forums worth posting on?

I see value here but it never hurts to have multiple options.

Thanks


Posted By: bc2051
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 6:40pm
Originally posted by anonymous anonymous wrote:

Originally posted by Fitness1983 Fitness1983 wrote:

I'm curious as to the origin of this forum. From what I can gather it began around 2010. There was a splitting from another forum. RR.com? Which is now wealthmanagement forums? I'm surprised this forum doesn't have more activity. I'm sure it did on its prior incarnations and isn't "what it used to be." Am I close or way off?

 
You got it part right, but here's the whole story. The old RR forum had a LOT of big producers and good content. There were a series of debates where the old guard there embarrassed some younger advisors (active/passive, whole/term insurance, fees/commissions, VA living benefits). The pikers who lost those debates decided to leave RR so they would have a "safe space" where they weren't owned so consistently. I won't name names, but they have psychological issues ranging from PTSD/anger management, God complex, napoleon complex, etc...
 
This site picked up a lot of traffic when some of the big hitters from RR joined AH to continue the debates. Unfortunately, the moderators couldn't take the abuse and banned all dissenting posters. We'll never hear from some of the legends of the old forum again - BFP, Lawrence, BioFreeze, voltmoie, XLockEDJ, mailto:Still@Jones" rel="nofollow - Still@Jones , Wanker, aeromaks.
 
The other thing that holds down membership is that most of the moderators are closeted homosexuals. You'll note the prevalence of questions/comments about anal sex. Because of this, female posters are run off pretty quickly so us guys can play grab ass in the locker room together.


Whoa. So where does the truth stop here? Either way I'm laughing


Posted By: helado
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 6:58pm
Is it really a god complex, if it's true?

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Posted By: Fitness1983
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 7:07pm
As a whole though it seems all rr type forums are ghost towns. Is that simply because most of the quality producers are like...actually producing...and the people that do post are eventually out of the biz? Exceptions of course exist but I can see that being the case


Posted By: helado
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 7:08pm
So, you think this forum is a ghost town? That hurts brah.

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Posted By: helado
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 7:13pm
I mean, there were almost 125 unique users that logged in today, and the place averages 1.5 new registrations per day as well.

Not bad for a forum that has been around for 6+ years (as in, the is continuous growth, not just because wenjust opened the doors), doesn't allow the public to view the content without registering, and has ZERO advertising (or any other source of revenue to support the place, besides donations).




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My posts are for abrasive entertainment only. Nothing posted is investment, legal, tax or any type of advice, nor is anything mentioned true or even based on real events. Posts are complete fiction.


Posted By: bc2051
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 7:24pm
Who started it?


Posted By: helado
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 10:58pm
I dunno.  It's pretty awesome though.

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My posts are for abrasive entertainment only. Nothing posted is investment, legal, tax or any type of advice, nor is anything mentioned true or even based on real events. Posts are complete fiction.


Posted By: Chief
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 11:07pm
Originally posted by bc2051 bc2051 wrote:

Who started it?


Some fat donut pushing valic rep and his gay buddies

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"You like winning don't you?" "Saves you from having to say the word please."

Good point Chief. Iceco1d 10/30/12


Posted By: helado
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 11:10pm
Originally posted by Chief Chief wrote:

Originally posted by bc2051 bc2051 wrote:

Who started it?


Some fat donut pushing valic rep and his gay buddies
 
Rick Ross started this forum?


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My posts are for abrasive entertainment only. Nothing posted is investment, legal, tax or any type of advice, nor is anything mentioned true or even based on real events. Posts are complete fiction.


Posted By: Chief
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 11:14pm
Rick Ross is in real estate!

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"You like winning don't you?" "Saves you from having to say the word please."

Good point Chief. Iceco1d 10/30/12


Posted By: helado
Date Posted: Sep/09/2016 at 11:26pm

You mean, like you wish you were?



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My posts are for abrasive entertainment only. Nothing posted is investment, legal, tax or any type of advice, nor is anything mentioned true or even based on real events. Posts are complete fiction.


Posted By: MrGreen
Date Posted: Dec/23/2016 at 10:31am
I do appreciate this forum.
 
After I left the green giant, full shunning and excommunication occurred, even with my good pals I'd known for years (I know all regions aren't like that, but ours was).
 
Found the forum to get ideas and ask questions that I used to with the older guys.
 
Apart part from the occasional smart remark people will actually take your questions seriously and help out. I'm a bit vanilla compared to some of the characters on here (cept that one time on the college football thread, sorry guys), but I have found that I do relay the ideas that I get here into my everyday business.
 
And you can be anonymous too so that's a plus. I don't know why there isn't more forums like these in all professions.
 
 
 


Posted By: RickRoss
Date Posted: Dec/23/2016 at 2:39pm
Do you really think we're anonymous?  They can track IP, get your location, search you out, etc., right?


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"Act as if you are the MF bomb..... even if you are one of those snap pops you throw on the ground."
-gotplanning, 2/9/12


Posted By: MrGreen
Date Posted: Dec/23/2016 at 3:38pm
anonymous - ish
Don't think anyone would be interested in a plain ole Dudley-Do-Right like myself anyway. I'm quite boring.
What I meant was I can ask a question about a scenario and no one really knows whom I'm talking about. Not that we can't be "tracked" per se.


Posted By: Sportsfreak
Date Posted: Dec/24/2016 at 4:02pm
Nobody here is important enough for anyone to want to track them. Except maybe CLAB. After all, he presses 1600 pounds

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Sorry MINT, SF is right, I was wrong......Helado...March 8th, 2014


Posted By: kaybee
Date Posted: May/10/2017 at 3:39pm
I'd just like to point out that I think it really says something that I'm reading things dated from 2010 and it's 2017, this site is still growing strong.
It makes me want to, you know...HAVE ACCESS to all threads and forums. 
I know it will be extremely beneficial to me as I start my new journey in the financial career world!


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KB


Posted By: Fitness1983
Date Posted: May/10/2017 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by kaybee kaybee wrote:

I'd just like to point out that I think it really says something that I'm reading things dated from 2010 and it's 2017, this site is still growing strong.
It makes me want to, you know...HAVE ACCESS to all threads and forums. 
I know it will be extremely beneficial to me as I start my new journey in the financial career world!


Then hang around and post.


Posted By: auburntigers001
Date Posted: May/11/2017 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by kaybee kaybee wrote:

I'd just like to point out that I think it really says something that I'm reading things dated from 2010 and it's 2017, this site is still growing strong.
It makes me want to, you know...HAVE ACCESS to all threads and forums. 
I know it will be extremely beneficial to me as I start my new journey in the financial career world!

Check out Wolf's thread under "Rookies and Training" once you have access. Read it more than once. Lots of great information, and it motivated me even more. 

Welcome. I'm new here as well



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