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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RIArules Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/14/2011 at 10:16pm
My ex-wife would have choked to death on shoes if it weren't for my smart ass comments....and she is a principal.  How great the education system has become.
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Originally posted by Iamlegend Iamlegend wrote:

Because of the new fiduciary standards some school systems severely reduced their offerings and some eliminated them altogether since they don't want to risk.

 
Most 403(b) plans don't require the employer or plan administrator to be a fiduciary.  They don't operate like 401(k) plans (some do, but most do not). 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RIArules Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/14/2011 at 11:46pm
Last time I heard that was going to change. But trying to nail down the qualified plan market right now is like herding cats.
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ERISA 403(b)'s are what you're thinking of I believe...and they aren't very prevelant in the K-12 marketplace. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RIArules Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/14/2011 at 11:58pm
Originally posted by iceco1d iceco1d wrote:

ERISA 403(b)'s are what you're thinking of I believe...and they aren't very prevelant in the K-12 marketplace. 


I honestly think they should be, given the craptastic choices I have seen at the local ISDs.
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Possibly so.  It's odd how different the 403(b) market is from the 401(k) market. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote blackcat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Feb/15/2011 at 12:01am
K-12 and JC colleges Mainly non-ERISA like ICE said. Never seen a district that hasnt offerd either 403b or 457 like REP007 mentioned, sounds hard to believe. Whaat about you ICE, ever come across a district that didnt offer these?
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Never.  In fact, probably 1/3 of the districts in my area have both a 403(b) and a 457(b).  They all have at least a 403(b). 
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My wife is absolutely the most brilliant person I've ever met, but explaining finances to her is very difficult.  She gets it, but at the same time doesn't get it.

I had a client in here on Friday who is a teacher.  The poor thing is 60 years old, and has a hard time with the concept of compound interest.
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In my limited teacher experience I have also found them to be investment morons. My brother-in-law is 26 years old and thinks the stock market is gambling and refuses to even acknowledge inflation exists.

The best part of that is my sister, who is a Corporate Banking Executive at Chase, tells him he is an idiot.

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Originally posted by Ron 14 Ron 14 wrote:

In my limited teacher experience I have also found them to be investment morons. My brother-in-law is 26 years old and thinks the stock market is gambling and refuses to even acknowledge inflation exists.

The best part of that is my sister, who is a Corporate Banking Executive at Chase, tells him he is an idiot.
 
That should make for an interesting Thanksgiving.  LOL
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That is exactly when it happened. She brought it up just to make him look like an ass in front of my other bro-in-law (CPA,CFA at BofA) and myself.

The not so funny part of it is in reality I was by far the dumbest person in the room.
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