Haven't had any time to worry about it after i couldn't log in. So it's been awhile.

Whoever's in charge should probably safeguard against that but nonetheless.

That's incorrect. 

I made a comment when he made his goodbye post. Then my profile was immediately deleted.

Pathetic 

You, in general. Claiming you are leaving, but coming back under different names, constantly logging in, starting fights with everyone yet keep coming back. Get help.

I also didn't leave. Someone deleted my profile.

It was deleted after the last time you left and said you were never coming back.

No, it was not. It was deleted immediately after posting a comment to Helado. My comment was also deleted.

But I'm not going to sit and argue with you.  That part of this site isn't worth my time.

or is it helado's smurf account?

I think it has been Helado all along 

Your comment was after you left and said you were never coming back.

Facts!

This. 

It’s been nice not having him around. 

Would be much nicer around here.

Gary. 

Yeah that's ridiculous.

He would just reincarnate again with a new username, against TOS.

Pretty sure I used the same name, when I set this account up which is the one that one of you deleted.

So, you'd be wrong.

I really don't care about the 5 or 6 of you who always cause problems and derail every conversation. I'd actually you rather ignore my posts. Would be best for everyone. Maybe some of us could actually have productive conversations

I feel like this whole thread is going in circles.

Gary! Always the joker!

It would be super easy if you didn’t lie, and then double down on the lie. 

(Que the “I’ve never lied about anything” trope) 

I figure you finally didn’t have enough time for here. You know, with the model wife, running a billion dollar practice, the $300k gym that you squat 500lbs in, while returning calls to Bob Stoops calls because of your 4.4 40, and making platinum albums with your band. I don’t see how/why you’d spend your time here. 

So, you can just stop posting. If you don't like me and don't like anything I say and I'm such a liar, don't post in my threads or comment on my posts. It's as simple as that. I have no value to you so don't interact with me. I'm cool with that.

But you won't because this is way less about me and way more about you.

I will extend an olive branch. Circles ain't as bad as everyone has beaten him up for on here over the years. I've gotten plenty of value from the stuff he's posted. He can be a valuable member. 

The hate has gone too far. 

Whatever, Windy.

Here is a fact…

If we took MOST of the advisors that mean girl him.

Cut Circles book in half

Then cut it in half again

He’d be at their level of production.

I don’t give a fuck about his Disney trip, band, 40 time, or anything else unrelated to business on this forum. It’s a side show act.

Half the assholes here say they wouldn’t fuck most Hollywood A listers because they are not hot enough while going home to their ugly fat wives.. and we are focused on this guys fucking gym? Grow up. FFS RIA is talking TOS violations when he’s not even an advisor  this fucking place lol (I’m not throwing stones, RIA just pointing out the hypocrisy)

Personally, I come here hoping to pick up a rare nugget to help me improve. I don’t hate the entertainment value either as an anarchist. Bring the chaos but seriously ask yourself. Who are you going to learn more from? Some dude 10+ years in the business making what Circles made year 4 or Circles?

I'm with indy. Good to back you back Circles/helado. 

Yeah, definitely not Helado.

A woman with MPD is just called a woman. 

I don’t obsess over people. Try that. 

Probably cause I've never actually lied and he knows it. I know i know. Really hard for you to swallow. You don't want to believe it after all these years, but it is what it is. 

That's kind of the problem here. 

"I don't want to believe what that person is saying, so I'm just going to call them a liar". 

That's kind of the status quo with a few of you. And that's kind of what Pig was saying with his joke about being triggered by "greatness" i think. Meanwhile, especially with me, a few people here know me personally and know I've been honest. It's just too exhausting dealing with the nonsense some of you guys continue, so i don't blame them for not always jumping in. 

You guys would be better off learning that just because something sounds difficult to accomplish, doesn't mean someone can't do it. 

We’ve hashed the lies over and over. You just continue to deny in the face of facts. I won’t hesitate to call out future ones. 

Who is obsessed? I haven’t given the people that have left here any thought. 

Does calling out bullshit bother you? Maybe you see it the same way I see your trolling - pointless. 

Also, i have no idea what you are talking about. My numbers have always added up and I never left because my AUM didn't match. That's stupid.

Again though. Everything I've ever said has been truthful. My business, my gym, my history in music and sports. Everything. I'm not going to argue about it anymore. You guys can believe what you want, even if you're incorrect. You're the ones living in lies here. However, if you think I'm lying just stay away from my posts. Pretty simple. 

If you can't, you just want to argue and provide nothing. Pretty simple but I'm not entertaining the absolutely exhausting lies you guys throw at me because you don't want to believe me. I'm done with that.

I’d look in the mirror first if you want to call out bullshit.

Thats what makes the pile on so funny to me.

That’s not taking anything away from them . They are on own journey and by all accounts are skilled, client first advisors, but numbers are numbers and we measure success in advisor world by assets, revenue, etc. not the buffoonery that goes on here.  Which is why i have zero problem asking AUM / LOS before taking anyone seriously.

Who cares what people make, it’s what kind of person you are Thst really counts 

Don’t confuse the two. 

Pompous? Sure

Bullshit? Never. I’m comfortable with who I am, and don’t come here for validation. I know who I am and luckily know my strengths and weaknesses. I come here to learn and strengthen my weaknesses to be a better advisor. Just like many of the normal contributors do. 

Came for the jokes. Stayed for the gay? 

I'm in better shape than 99% of the people on this site, im sure. Calling me fat constantly doesn't make it so. 

But again, calling me a liar for all these things that were true doesn't make you right. Get over yourself and move on 

Someone sounds like jarvis....

Good ideas can come from anywhere regardless of size. I know advisors with $300 million and they are shitty advisors.

The issue with Circles/etc, sure he has a huge practice, but he doesn't do what you come here for...he shares nothing other than stats to brag about..And when he gets push back instead of explaining he reverts to "you don't understand".

I am sure he has value to add, but I don't think he ever will because he never has.

I will never forget a line spewed by my next door neighbor some tweny five years ago...

"There is no such thing as winning only degrees of losing"...

We can argue about if production is the right or wrong way to define success but none of that changes the fact that's the measuring stick.

You are right, good ideas come from everywhere.  Including outside of the business but it's hard to take people seriously that approach this profession as a part-time six figure side hustle when you are trying to build a professional firm.

I get where Jarvis is coming from on that angle.  

This is all very fair. 

The bottom line is that until there is another metric people care about, AUM and production are the measure of success in this business. 

Like financial planning itself, a lot of this really depends on the goal. 

If the goal is to build a professional practice, then let that be your metric.

If you care about other shit in life and would rather spend five hours a week making $400 - $600k per year doing that - do that.

Good ideas come from everywhere. I'm almost positive I got one good idea from Circles. But I also got a good idea from KKBerk and even BioFreeze. 

Also, people aren't one aspect of their personality. Circles is likely more layered than he appears on here. 

That said, the "you don't understand" bullshit is tiresome. 

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That’s the way to give us what for!

Wow 😯 

Still in the business at Merrill?

In the business, yes. At merrill, no. I’m going independent now. Waiting on my registration setup with the RIA as we speak.